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如题。
木前俺能想起来的,自己大概有富特贝鲁一特乌拉尼牙弗兰克等少许,芭比马九柯尔托等若干,
同一录音,长期持有两个或以上滴版本。想必这么干滴不在少数。
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53年萨巴塔《托斯卡》黑胶两版:SAN149和德版SMA18001。CD从首版德版到伟大世纪录音金版豪华纪念版共三种。
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汗,同一录音很少收多版的。倒是同个曲子收很多版。
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恩,同个录音的不同版本音质好坏很好鉴别,反正演绎都是一样的,就取音质好的那个哦,
不同版本的例子,仿佛福特51年贝九多收了几张,其他一时半会还想不起来。。。

对同一录音玩版本比较,除非对这个录音非常痴迷,否则洗一套足矣。
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回复 2# yilinliulin 的帖子

俺以前认识一黄姓青年,其有过之,将所有能见到的“dark side of the moon”系数收下,包括各国版本,豪华,纪念,套装,甚至D版。见到三角就不能自已~
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原帖由 cappucino1 于 2010-7-21 21:35:00 发表

对同一录音玩版本比较,除非对这个录音非常痴迷,否则洗一套足矣。


正解,但对深度痴迷与恋物不适用~
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回复 3# 莱纳 的帖子

从多个录音过渡到个别录音,从个别copy增加到多个copies,
看到别人这么干,于是欲望开始膨胀,干料以后,貌似身心舒畅~huhu
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原帖由 洗牌出碟 于 2010-7-21 22:15:00 发表
从多个录音过渡到个别录音,从个别copy增加到多个copies,
看到别人这么干,于是欲望开始膨胀,干料以后,貌似身心舒畅~huhu


呵呵,想起了那篇著名的"一个铁杆牒迷一生的七个阶段",lz已经进阶到第三阶段,而且还是3阶顶级了,何时进阶可怕的第四阶段拭目以待呵。。。。。
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原帖由 洗牌出碟 于 2010-7-21 21:59:00 发表
俺以前认识一黄姓青年,其有过之,将所有能见到的“dark side of the moon”系数收下,包括各国版本,豪华,纪念,套装,甚至D版。见到三角就不能自已~

只有一张澳大利亚版。
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4季,收了好几个版本的LP。
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回复 8# cappucino1 的帖子

未闻啊,请简单介绍下是哪七个阶段呢?
有此症状滴也好自我诊断一下。
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回复 10# KEN 的帖子

印象中,Ken版好象是对人声上瘾?
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黑胶包装有看头儿~huhu
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原帖由 洗牌出碟 于 2010-7-21 22:59:00 发表
未闻啊,请简单介绍下是哪七个阶段呢?
有此症状滴也好自我诊断一下。



一个铁杆牒迷一生的七个阶段



------David Hurwitz




阶段一:探索发现。这是最美妙的时刻,音乐世界里像是有无数的杰作在召唤你的注意。唯一打击你的热情的是你的钱包,而且你会尽你所能尽量多、尽量快地买碟。
阶段二:扩大收藏。你注意到同样的音乐在不同的演出中听起来是不一样的,于是你开始收集你喜欢的作品的不同版本,渐渐地你会发现哪个音乐家的演绎最得你的心。当你的亲友非常符合逻辑地问你干吗要15个版本的马勒第二时,你会非常理解地笑笑,心想:"蠢人".
阶段三:迷狂状态。你对不同音乐家的体验导致你盯上一两个(或者更多)你认为掌握着无可挑剔的伟大艺术的精髓的音乐家。现在,除了购同一作品的不同版本,你开始收集同一音乐家对同一作品的不同演绎版本(有些录音仅是几天之隔)。你开始寻找偷录版本、私藏录音等所有你可以得到的零零碎碎的东西,不管录音有多差,也不管你的偶像那天可能不在状态。不管怎样你必须得到它。你觉得几个版本在演绎上的极细小的差别都非常重要。
后面的四个阶段不一定是前三个阶段的延续,也不是每一个铁杆收藏家都会经历的,但大多数人最终会经历一到两个。
阶段四:怀旧。这是个转变的阶段。可怕的时刻到来了:你觉得你已经听过所有的东西。你已经掌握了基本曲目,并且了解了所有伟大的音乐家,包括你喜欢的和不喜欢的。你已经到达了可怕的“伟大作品饱和点”。你生活中缺少的是探索:那种初遇每一部伟大作品时的激情。
阶段五:漫漫征途。幸运的是,救赎近在眼前。很多独立的厂牌是专攻各种各样较罕见的曲目的。这一阶段主要有两个危险(不包括可能的破产)。第一是不可避免而漫长无尽的缺乏空间。这个难处可以在你最初几次去二手CD店这个传说中的音乐“安全阀”时得到解决。第二是和第三阶段相似的一种倾向,就是会把本来不那么有趣或特别的音乐捧上天,而这只是因为它的新奇激起了你的幻想。当你费尽口舌地称赞HavergalBrian 是英国最伟大的作曲家、称 Sorabji 是天才,或者说贝多芬和Ferdinand Ries 比起来不过是个音乐中的小矮人的时候,人们都会惊异地看着你。这个阶段可以持续数年,此间会有几千张CD经过你的手,助你征服古典音乐里的“圣杯”——被忽视的杰作。如果你严肃地认为“三B”是指Bax, Boughton 和 Bach (当然是W.F.那个),那么你走得太远了,也确实该进入第六阶段了。
阶段六:新生。有一天,你在检索你的收藏中的 B 栏时,发现四五十套已经有几个月甚至几年没碰的贝交全集了。然后你怀旧地开始听,并惊喜地晕过去:原来贝交比那些组成你最新听资的二流新奇玩意儿要好几百万倍!于是你重新开始听Brahms, Mozart, Handel, Mahler, Haydn, Bach, 甚至(汗……)Tchaikovsky和 Richard Strauss。你好像是第一次听到这些音乐,而且它们听来如此鲜活生动!你重新爱上这些伟大的经典作品了,并意识到历史的判断不总是错的。人们不是白叫它们“Warhorse”的。
阶段七:成熟。幸运的话,你会达到这一阶段。你意识到拥有50套贝交是没必要的,其中有46套你是不会听的;如果你有20套贝交,其中16套从来不听,你也会一样高兴。Siegfried Karg-Elert的小风琴全集、那套保加利亚人的马勒全集、二三十套格里高利圣咏、一个历史录音的由不同的公司出的音质无甚区别的六个拷贝、你珍藏的一盒12CD装的 Sviatoslav Richter 在 Spandau 监狱的“传奇”录音、几打你除了知道它们听起来都一个样以外什么都没记住的巴洛克歌剧——这些都被送进二手CD店,就像丢失的雨伞一样;他们重新加入流通,将哺育下一代古典CD收藏者。那么,至于你,你仍然买新出的CD,但是一张一张很有选择地买,而且你会花时间聆听每一张。
最后编辑cappucino1 最后编辑于 2010-07-21 23:04:09
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oh my~ 这也太密了
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回复 14# cappucino1 的帖子

Hurwitz这个同志怎么搞滴,
估计绝大多数人是会经历或已经历过“前两个半”阶段。
至于后面的“四个半”,应该是对卡夫卡作品滴copy。
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原帖由 cappucino1 于 2010-7-21 23:03:00 发表
原帖由 洗牌出碟 于 2010-7-21 22:59:00 发表
未闻啊,请简单介绍下是哪七个阶段呢?
有此症状滴也好自我诊断一下。



一个铁杆牒迷一生的七个阶段[/



翻译得不错!谢谢!


来个中英对照吧,把 David Hurwitz 的原文贴在这里。此公的乐评经常是个性鲜明,且不乏幽默。我发现这七个阶段当中有几个阶段会同时并存一段时间。



http://www.classicstoday.com/Classics/ConcertReview_ASPFiles/ViewConcertReview.asp?Action=User&ID=333




SEVEN PHASES IN THE LIFE OF A HARD-CORE COLLECTOR

Do You Recognize Yourself Here?
I’m sure that some of you have seen that famous little poster called “The Six Phases of a Project?” In case this escaped your attention until now, these are: (1) enthusiasm; (2) disillusionment; (3) panic; (4) search for the guilty; (5) punishment of the innocent; (6) praise and honors for the non-participants. It occurred to me recently that the life of a typical hard-core classical music record collector might be similarly categorized, and so I modestly propose the following:

Phase 1: Discovery. This is the most wonderful time of all, when the world seems full of an almost limitless number of masterpieces crying for your attention. The only constraint on your enthusiasm is your pocketbook, and you do whatever you can to purchase as much as possible as quickly as possible.

Phase 2: Expansion. You notice that the same music sounds different in different performances, and so you begin collecting multiple versions of your favorite works and start to get a sense for which artists offer interpretations that are most to your liking. You smile knowingly when friends and family members ask the perfectly logical question: Why do you need 15 different recordings of Mahler’s Second Symphony? Foolish people!

Phase 3: Fandom. Your taste in various performers leads you to fixate on one or two (or more) who you believe hold the key to indisputable artistic greatness. Now instead of purchasing multiple recordings of the same music, you’re after multiple recordings of the same music by the same artist at different periods (sometimes only a few days apart). You begin looking for pirate air-checks, private recordings, every scrap you can get your hands on, no matter if it sounds awful and your idol might have had a really bad day. You MUST have it anyway. You find great signficance in relatively tiny interpretive differences from one performance to the next.

The next four phases are not necessarily the inevitable outcomes of the first three, and not every hard-core collector experiences all of them, but most eventually manage at least one or two.

Phase 4: Nostalgia. This is a transitional phase: now comes that terrifying moment when you feel that you’ve heard it all. You’ve mastered the basic repertoire and know all of the great performers, those you like and those you don’t, and have reached the dreaded Great Works Saturation Point. What’s missing in your life is the thrill of discovery: that first flush of enthusiasm for each masterpiece as it first sounded when you originally encountered it.

Phase 5: Crusade. Happily salvation is at hand, in the form of dozens of fine independent labels specializing in all sorts of repertoire niches just waiting to be explored. There are two principal dangers with this phase (not including possible bankruptcy). The first is the inevitable and chronic lack of shelf space, a difficulty avoided as you make your first trips to that fabulous musical safety-valve, the used CD shop. The second danger is the tendency, similar to what happens in phase 3 above, to make exaggerated claims for music that really isn’t all that special or interesting just because its novelty excites your fancy. People will look at you strangely as you vigorously try to defend the assertion that Havergal Brian was England’s greatest composer, Sorabji a genius, or that Beethoven was a musical pygmy compared to Ferdinand Ries. This phase can go on for years, with literally thousands of discs passing through a typical collector’s hands in an endless crusade for that Holy Grail of classical music: the neglected masterpiece. If you seriously believe that the “three Bs” means Bax, Boughton, and Bach (W.F. of course!), then you’ve gone too far, and it’s really time to move on to Phase 6.

Phase 6: Renewal. One day, as you look through the letter B in your carefully alphabetized collection, you see those 40 or 50 Beethoven cycles that you haven’t touched in months, or even years. Playing the symphonies, just for old time’s sake, you’re stunned to realize that they truly are light years better than the second rate novelties that have constituted your main musical diet lately. So you move on to Brahms, Mozart, Handel, Mahler, Haydn, Bach, even (gasp!) Tchaikovsky, and Richard Strauss. It’s as if you’re hearing them all for the first time--and how alive, how refreshing they all sound! You fall in love with the great classics all over again, and you realize that the judgment of history isn’t always wrong. They don’t call ‘em “warhorses” for nothing!

Phase 7: Maturity. If you’re lucky, you may get this far. You realize that it’s not necessary to own 50 Beethoven cycles, 46 of which you never play, when you can be just as happy with 20 of them, 16 of which you never play. The complete harmonium music of Siegfried Karg-Elert, that Bulgarian Mahler cycle, 20 or 30 Gregorian Chant collections, six copies of the same historical recording reissued on six different labels in marginally varying (terrible) sound quality, your cherished 12 CD box containing pirate recordings of Sviatislav Richter’s “legendary” Spandau Prison concerts, and literally dozens of Baroque operas about which you remember nothing beyond the fact that they all sound exactly the same--all of these go straight to the used CD store where, like lost umbrellas, they will be returned to circulation to nourish the next generation of classical CD collectors. And as for you, well, you still purchase new releases, but discretely, selectively, and you take the time to enjoy every one.

David Hurwitz


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"six copies of the same historical recording reissued on six different labels ..."

......hahh! that might be really interesting!

"...in marginally varying (terrible) sound quality."

......that's impossible!
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Again,this guy was a junior,both on music collecting and writting...huhu~
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You don't find lovers by tring every women/man in the world,would you?
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喜欢的CD,要是能见着SACD我都会再买。
初烧,但只爱丹拿!
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